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Greater Talons versus Runic Talons

Greater Talons

Runic Talons

Base Speed

-30

-30

Str requirement

79

115

Dex requirement

79

115

Damage

21 - 35

24 - 44


Ah, the runics have higher damage, so we choose these right? No no. Lets take a better look at the damage difference between a Greater Talon and a Runic Talon:

We have to following:

Both claws with a 350% ED Chaos runeword in them.

Level 30 Claw Mastery (151% ED)

120 Strength

120 Dexterity


The formulae's to calculate a claw's damage (on-screen) are the following:

Statbonus: ([Dexterity x 0.0075] + [Strength x 0.0075] + 1)

Minimal Damage: {((Statbonus) + (%Enhanced Damage/100)) x Min-dmg on Weapon}

Maximal Damage: {(([Dex x 0.0075] + [Str x 0.0075] + 1) + (%Enhanced Damage)) x Max-dmg on Weapon}


Lets start with the Greater Talon:

Min-dmg on Weapon: (21 * (3.5+1)) = 94,5 = 94

Max-dmg on Weapon: (35 * (3.5+1)) = 157,5 = 157

Statbonus: ([120 x 0.0075] + [120 x 0.0075] + 1) = 2.8

Minimal Damage: {((2.8) + (151/100)) x 94} = 405,14 = 405

Maximal Damage: {((2.8) + (151/100)) x 35} = 676,67 = 676


So, this greater talon has a total damage of 405 - 676. That is an average of; (405+676)/2 = 540,5


Lets move on with a Runic Talon:

Min-dmg on Weapon: (24 * (3.5+1)) = 108

Max-dmg on Weapon: (44 * (3.5+1)) = 198

Statbonus: ([120 x 0.0075] + [120 x 0.0075] + 1) = 2.8

Minimal Damage: {((2.8) + (151/100)) x 108} = 465,48 = 465

Maximal Damage: {((2.8) + (151/100)) x 198} = 853,38 = 863


This runic has a total damage of 465 - 863. That is an average of; (465+863)/2 = 664


Woah, so a runic has 123,5 more average damage?! Yes, too bad that is without the PvP penalty. After this penalty, the difference is only; (123,5*0,17) = 20,99 = 21. Add anoter 50% Damage reduction and we have a difference of only 10 damage.


The damage difference between greater talons and runic talons is pathetic, on top of that, a runic talon requires way more strength and dexterity. This means that a greater talon is superior to a runic because it gives you way more options of gear swapping while still staying at base strength/dexterity.

All in all: Use a greater talon, not a runic! (well, ok, unless you dont have any problem-giving gear-swaps and you'll be able to use runics with base str/dex anyway)